In fact, everyone I talked to in San Francisco thought that the Cruise and Waymo vehicles were fully autonomous as they were so bad in certain ways. I would routinely see vehicles stopped and blocking traffic for 30 minutes. Or three vehicles together blocking an intersection with no visible progress to untangling themselves. And the SF Fire Department was very frustrated with Cruise vehicles wandering into active fire areas, then stopping with their wheels on a fire hose, refusing to move on.