Thank you for your kind reply. Once again, today I spent 6 hours trying and failing to install adobe cloud updates. I turned off my auto updates a month ago after spending many hours over two days, with an Adobe tech, trying to get my CC apps back on track. Today, while doing a simple task with fonts, the screen went grey. There was no way to close the app, not even to force quit. In 34 years, I've never seen anything like it. But I knew I had. to restart, because Adobe products don't get the message to close after a force quit, so I followed my normal routine of redownloading CC app > installing and opening it and once again clicked the update button. Photoshop repeatedly goes to 84% then quits. Illustrator goes to 88% spins endlessly and then I have to start the process all over again. Another 45-60 minutes wasted. Since the implementation of CC, my productivity has taken a dive. Currently, I spend more time dealing with stability issues than I do designing. Adobe really needs to let this go. Give it up. We're not happy. We're trapped renting software that works less than 50% of the time for much more money than it's worth. Most of us only use 5-10% of the program, so make something easy for us. Spend less time trying to figure out how to charge us more and more time allowing us to be artists. P.S. I have found many inexpensive apps to fill in some of Adobe's gaps. They are not the only game in town anymore.