So basically what I'm hearing is that with my ordering tools/apps/programs or whatever terminology you want to use for them, I am in a very bad situation until Java does something. This is really, really, really bad. I wish Apple would have let everyone know this was coming so they could keep up. Clients will be very upset with me and the only lame answer I can give is that it is out of my control. Yeah, try telling that to a bride or her mother.